Wow! has it been a year?
Yes, yes it has. I haven't posted in a long time, and I have no good excuse as to why, other than i am very lazy. I did find work as an "engineer" for a year. sadly it had no engineering work, and was not the place i wanted to be. So I want to get back into my personal projects. First and foremost is moving my shop from one garage to my garage (oh joy). Which means i have to get my garage cleaned out, and i mean really clean, and not "clean enough, just pile that up there".
I have bought some new machines, and just finished a deal for some really nice ones that i will share at the end of the month.
I am in the process of cleaning out the garage now, and will post some pictures of the progress and what i apln to do with it. what fun!
Making a machine shop
Tuesday, June 11, 2013
Friday, June 1, 2012
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| this is not a good thing |
The rebuild of Jasmine has started! I did some basic inspection and found that
Jasmine has turcite on her table, and that it need replaced before she can make
chips. This requires me to get some
turcite cut to shape, install it, and grind/scrape it. Of course I am not doing all of this. I am hoping that American plastics in
Columbus cam make the strips. I am
looking for a rebuilder to do the scraping.
So in general that sucks.
But in for a penny, in for a grand. So since the table is off, I am ordering new
plumbing for the one shot lube system. The
one shot lube supplies all the moving parts of the mill with lubrication, and it’s
a big deal when it breaks. 2 lines in
the system were corroded and that is probably why the turcite was chewed. In the mean time I have only 30 or so other
things to do like build a table for the Rockwell, plumb some air lines, buy a
compressor, finish the design for the rpc, build the rpc, finish the flood
coolant for the saw, put some lights up, find a compressor, run electric to all
machines, and maybe even get a job. I
feel like I still don’t know any answers but I am at least starting to ask the
right questions.
Wednesday, May 16, 2012
What does an engineer do, really?
If I had a nickel for every time I was asked this, I could
buy a double stack at Wendy’s. I could describe
what engineers do, but that would be boring, and this blog is boring
enough. So I thought “hey let’s use an
example”. Examples are great. just about
any time I have a problem, I look into a book for an example that’s close, and already thought
out, and use it. So here’s the problem
we have. I want to design a table for
the Rockwell drill press. Now I could
just get some big honking steel beams, and slap it up, but steel ain't cheap,
and it is heavy. Once we have a problem
to solve, we try to bound the problem with requirements. I made the following requirements:
The first thing is to determine how long and wide to make the drill table. The drill is about 50” tall, and the table is about 20x25. The drill head sticks out an additional 8 inches, so when looking from the top, the drill takes up about 34 inches, call it 3 ft, and I’d like some room from the wall, so let’s say 40” depth of the table, for easy of manufacturer (and because I have the room) 40 wide. The drilling surface is about 4 inches thick, so the table needs to be 25 inches tall to have the drilling surfaces of the 2 tables at the same height. So the table will be 40x40x25. Now the drill has a hole pattern on the bottom of the drilling surface that is 17x23 and uses ½-13 threads. So to use the drill pattern to secure the drill to the table we will need supports that mate to those holes. This means an extra support in the center of the table. Well look how much we have done , and we don’t even know what it will be made of!
Onto material! I settled on square tubing because it has superior strength, doesn’t have any crevices where swarf can build up, and it looks nice :(and it wasn't in the requirements so that means i can choose what i want). Now that we know what shape we want to use, we look to see which we will use. So we know the load, and the span, and the material, and the shape, and we can calculate the deflection based on this
where E is the modulus of elasticity and I is
the moment of inertia.
All that changes is the moment of inertia
depending on the thickness, and size of the tubing. Now we
can chart the deflection of different materials versus their cost per inch, and
find the best candidate.
1)
Must be fastened together (no welder, and easier
to fix/change bolted parts)
2)
Must hold drill plus 500 lbs (1000 lbs total)
with less than .025 deflection.
3)
Max material length 12ft per piece
4)
Max material weight 150 lbs per piece
5)
Must have a hole pattern same as the pattern on the bottom of the drill
(so drill can bolt on)
6)
Finish height of table = to other drill finish
height (makes the entire space more usable)
7) Table top, and must be stable with a heavy
load.
Find lowest cost/ best performance material. Who’s excited?!??!?!
The first thing is to determine how long and wide to make the drill table. The drill is about 50” tall, and the table is about 20x25. The drill head sticks out an additional 8 inches, so when looking from the top, the drill takes up about 34 inches, call it 3 ft, and I’d like some room from the wall, so let’s say 40” depth of the table, for easy of manufacturer (and because I have the room) 40 wide. The drilling surface is about 4 inches thick, so the table needs to be 25 inches tall to have the drilling surfaces of the 2 tables at the same height. So the table will be 40x40x25. Now the drill has a hole pattern on the bottom of the drilling surface that is 17x23 and uses ½-13 threads. So to use the drill pattern to secure the drill to the table we will need supports that mate to those holes. This means an extra support in the center of the table. Well look how much we have done , and we don’t even know what it will be made of!
Onto material! I settled on square tubing because it has superior strength, doesn’t have any crevices where swarf can build up, and it looks nice :(and it wasn't in the requirements so that means i can choose what i want). Now that we know what shape we want to use, we look to see which we will use. So we know the load, and the span, and the material, and the shape, and we can calculate the deflection based on this
where E is the modulus of elasticity and I is
the moment of inertia.
All that changes is the moment of inertia
depending on the thickness, and size of the tubing. Now we
can chart the deflection of different materials versus their cost per inch, and
find the best candidate.
Luckily I made one charting several steel
tubes, and a few extruded aluminum tubes.
So based on cost and deflection, it looks
like the 3x3 11 .120 wall steel is a winner.
And that is in a nutshell what engineers do. Sure I could have just made it out of ¼ wall
3x3 or fancy 80/20 aluminum, and if I was charging 250 an hour, I would have, but
engineers figure out how to make something as quickly and cheaply as possible,
and if you have no cash or are making a trillion of something, then having an
engineer to find out the best for the least is a necessity.
I look at it as the designer makes the requirements (frames the box) and the engineer makes the part you need fit in the requirements box. sure lines are blurred sometimes, today i was the designer and engineer,. but i have to wear a lot of hats.
I look at it as the designer makes the requirements (frames the box) and the engineer makes the part you need fit in the requirements box. sure lines are blurred sometimes, today i was the designer and engineer,. but i have to wear a lot of hats.
Now to figure the cost of
hardware…
Moving Jasmine
Well I bought Jasmine about ½ a year ago. I finally got up to moving her. She is a Yamazen 5BVK CNC knee mill. She was named Jasmine by my wife who for the
life of her could not remember Yamazen.
I kinda like having a Jasmine in the shop. Sounds way sexier that it should. Onto the move.
| good and cheap, what more can you ask for? |
I removed the servos and bits and pieces from the mill. I left the lube and mister attached, I didn’t
want to create an environmental disaster on the way home. First thing was to remove the variable speed
head. Three bolts attach the head to the
fixed ram.
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| can you find the nut? |
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| tghe blue bitch doing her thing |
Once the bolts were removed it the blue bitch was hooked up and as the queen of hearts would say...
Next was the fixed ram, the bolts were easier to find, but dam hard to loosen, thank you channel lock for making the “nut buster”.
After that the based was
rolled on using the old eqyptian method of rollers, prybars and muscle. Once it was on the tilt bed, it was smooth
sailing with a come-along. Unload was
done in the middle of the night, so no pictures, sufice it to say it was a long
night.
Wednesday, May 2, 2012
what a putz
So a while ago I bought a cnc knee mill. I haven’t even moved it out of the guys
garage yet (I am doing that Saturday… I swear… promise with pictures for the bloggerz). I had a small little bench top mill with tooling for $1200+shipping
new before I knew what the hell I was doing. It
was a bad choice money wise, but a good machine to learn on. I had it for about a year, and made some good
and bad parts on it (I also added a 3 axis DRO, Gas piston, lapped the ways,
and generally kept it in decent shape).
I sold the bench top to make room, and have been looking for a small
manual knee for a about a month now. I have looked
at some nice machines, and some absolute dogs.
The one today was a head shaker. It was
a Millrite MVI, with a nodding knuckle.
But it had been sitting for at least a year outside, was crammed full of
grease (pet peeve of mine), and a dinged up table and rusty spindle.. the x and y lead screws hd tons of play. The old fellow that owned it wanted $1500
originally, which I thought was supposed to be funny, then $500.
I replied that he could get $150 for it in scrap, and I’d offer $250. I think he was upset, because he replied he
would give it to his grandson. I personally
have no problem with this. What I do
have a problem with is people not understanding that the value of something is
really determined by the buyer, not the seller.
The owner has three prices he can choose from, mine (250) scrap (150)
and free. Oh well, that’s the way some
people are, they’d rather lose money then think they’re giving someone a deal. A goofy amchinist guy i know set up the meeting. He knew i was looking for a mill, but seemed to take the old guys side, even adding "good luck finding a mill for $500". wtf bud, youre supposed to be the wingman here! Still looking for that nice mill, I’d like to spend about 750
or so. Everyone says you’ll never find
one for that, but then posts how they did… so I think I’ll be hitting the
auctions for a while, and sticking to my axioms. And looking for a TREE or Index...
Thursday, April 26, 2012
Projects, Projects, Projects
I think I have at least 8 irons in the fire, in various
stages of incomplete running from “just a few more seconds”, to “I don’t even
know where to begin”.
Yesterday I replaced the bearings on my radial arm drill. It is a walker turner model 1600, and I have
wanted one from the day 1.
Replacing the bearings was a pretty easy task, I ordered 8 6230’s from Mcmaster Carr, and proceeded to beat them into place with a combination of wood blocks and a hammer.
I also adjusted the locking mechanisms. Now replacing the arm… that was not easy. Luckily there were no pictures to show how I did it, it wasn’t safe, or pretty, or fun. After the arm is in place, the bearings have to be adjusted to provide proper contact to the dovetail. Each bearing is on a cam, and rotating the cam provided about an 1/8th of linear motion for adjustment. I did my best, but I think I will contact the folks at wwm to get a better procedure to do this. I checked how much the arm flexes under load. It was about .010” at full extension, and .003” at the minimum. That may sound like a lot, but I can live with it, the drill only has a ½ hp motor, so I am limiting it to ½” holes. Next to the WT is a drill for bigger holes currently acting like a desk and waiting on a table. I wonder what it's deflection is…
Replacing the bearings was a pretty easy task, I ordered 8 6230’s from Mcmaster Carr, and proceeded to beat them into place with a combination of wood blocks and a hammer.
I also adjusted the locking mechanisms. Now replacing the arm… that was not easy. Luckily there were no pictures to show how I did it, it wasn’t safe, or pretty, or fun. After the arm is in place, the bearings have to be adjusted to provide proper contact to the dovetail. Each bearing is on a cam, and rotating the cam provided about an 1/8th of linear motion for adjustment. I did my best, but I think I will contact the folks at wwm to get a better procedure to do this. I checked how much the arm flexes under load. It was about .010” at full extension, and .003” at the minimum. That may sound like a lot, but I can live with it, the drill only has a ½ hp motor, so I am limiting it to ½” holes. Next to the WT is a drill for bigger holes currently acting like a desk and waiting on a table. I wonder what it's deflection is…
Every shop needs at least one drill press. It is the ubiquitous tool of the shop, capable
of precision and just “burning a hole”.
It’s a poor man’s press, and a stable table for other work. I have two now, the Walker turner, and a huge
Rockwell 70-x. The Rockwell needs a
table still… but that’s a project for another day.
Monday, April 23, 2012
The 5 Machine Buying Axioms!
When I left my employer of 10 years, I thought I would work on some neat ideas I had. I bought a0small 7x10 lathe and a small milling machine (model 3900 from little machine shop, a great little mill). I quickly learned I couldn’t make some of the bigger parts I needed, and that I had a lot to learn. I used a machine shop in Columbus, Ohio to provide me the bigger stuff, and even fixed some of the parts they made on my dinky machines. I started reading online forums… a lot. I joined practical machinist, homeshopmachinist, hobbymachinists, you name it, I had an account (and still frequent most of them). I learned a few axioms about buying machines:
You can still do sloppy work on a deckel, and I’ve seen great work on a mill/drill. It’s something to think about before sinking 20k on a mill.
Well that’s my insight for the day, and what I’ve learned so far when buying and looking at machines.
1) You can make small parts on big machines, but you can't make big parts on small machines (to a point).
This is a classic line for anyone that wants to start a hobby or business. As soon as you buy that HF (harbor freight) 7x10 lathe, you’ll outgrow it. Then that 9”Atlas you got at an auction… too tiny. Then that 14” southbend… well you get the idea. Now some large lathes won’t have the RPMs to turn small stuff, so Buyer Beware.
2) Bridgeports are the Jordache Jeans of the machine world.
Everyone and their mom wants a Bridgeport. Well they are very nice machines, but I always suggest looking at other less known names (Gorton, Tree, Millrite, US Burke, a host of Chinese and Taiwanese BP clones, and my fave Wells-Index). Now all of these have their faults, (except Index, they’re perfect), but you can usually get them for much much less than a comparable BP. However the spindle may also take something other than r-8 collets. Again buyer beware.
3) Know in your head you will spend as much on the mill/lathe as you will in tooling for it.
This is a classic mistake, and one I made personally. You will need for your mill before you start a very good vise, a very good dial indicator, a very good set of endmills, drills, a Jacobs chuck, collets, and some hold down tooling. You will soon want on your mill DRO’s, power feed, a second vise, some angle plates, and coolant of some sort. For your lathe you can get by with less, a set of boring bars, some indexable tooling, maybe some HHS bits and a few carbide tipped ones… but you will need at some point, collets, a steady rest, a follower rest, lathe dogs, a dead center, a live center, a 4 jaw chuck. Look for the extras!
4) It’s for sale for a reason.
And it behooves you to find out why. It may be bad, it may not, this may be a “just me thing” but I have had more success with older owners than younger ones. I personally love kicking the tires and fixing up stuff. I wouldalso suggest not buying on internet auctions. I think it’s best to kick the tires around on em, and maybe see an easy fix or a major problem before you buy it.
5) It’s not the brush. It’s the painter.
You can still do sloppy work on a deckel, and I’ve seen great work on a mill/drill. It’s something to think about before sinking 20k on a mill.
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